After the bar mitzva weekend ended, one of my daughters stayed with her family for the rest of the week. We all really enjoyed having them for an extended stay.
One morning the twins had a visitation with their father and for the rest of the day they needed repeated reminders about boundaries. I was exhausted by the end of the day! The nice feedback at the end of it all was when my daughter told me she learned about not giving in by watching me.
In our home, our guidelines are that we don’t hurt people – not with our bodies and not with our words.
Of course, just saying that doesn’t mean that everyone complies with the guidelines. If someone hurts someone physically, they get a five minute break to cool down, while sitting on the couch or on my lap, never being sent to a separate room. In those five minutes, they need to stay quiet because when children are actively verbalizing (usually their hostility), they aren’t able to feel the regret of what they did. So the five minutes begins once they are quiet.
After that, I briefly address what they did, asking them what they think would be a good thing to do show they are sorry, and they generally apologize and hug the other person. (This response was internalized after a lot of conversations and repeated practice.)
On this day, dd7, ds7 and ds8 were in the pool together. I heard crying from the two boys, and it quickly became obvious that dd7 had pinched both of them hard. I told her to come out of the pool for five minutes.
Emboldened by the fact she was in the pool and seemingly untouchable, she yelled at me that she’s not coming out. I reminded her when someone hurts someone, they need to sit quietly for five minutes. She yelled at me again, “I’m not sitting for five minutes, I’m not coming out now, and I’m not coming out ever!”
Them’s fightin’ words. 🙂 She’s thrown down the gauntlet.
I calmly told her that it’s disrespectful to yell at Mommy and she’ll need to sit quietly for fifteen minutes instead of five. Fifteen minutes is the maximum I’ll have a child sit quietly and that’s when a child is really out of hand and needs more time to get regulated.
She yelled at me again, this time adding hitting motions towards me with the toy in her hand, with a slight smile on her lips. She was sure she had the upper hand since she was in the pool and seemingly unreachable by me.
“You need to come out now, and it’s better if you come out by yourself than if I have to help you get out.” (This is said in a calm voice, not threatening and not escalating my tone.) Her response – more refusal.
I had clarified with her that she knew what she was supposed to do, I let her know she’d need to sit for 15 minutes for being disrespectful to me in addition to hurting two brothers, and I made sure she realized I was going to take her out if she didn’t come out on her own. My position was clear.
I made a move towards her and she began to move to another part of the pool to evade me, with that same little smile.
I’m not getting into power struggles with children. If it’s important enough for me to say something twice, I’m going to follow through, even if it’s uncomfortable or inconvenient for me. If you aren’t willing to follow through, don’t make verbalize an expectation of your child because he’ll learn you don’t mean what you say.
I wasn’t going to make a mockery of myself trying to chase her from outside the pool while she swam away from side to side laughing. But I wasn’t going to overlook the challenge to my authority.
Without saying anything else, I went to my room and changed into a bathing suit. I went back outside, and her eyes widened as I climbed into the pool. Still not saying anything, I took her in my arms. I went to the ladder with her, and she insisted she wasn’t going to go on the ladder. She was still trying to maintain control of the interaction.
Since what matters to me was that she got out of the pool, not specifically using the ladder, I lifted her over the side. I hardly said anything during this time; the talking time had passed and now it was about action.
I carried her inside, put her on my lap, and reminded her she’d be sitting for fifteen minutes. She screamed and threw herself on the floor. This is classic testing behavior, when the child wants to see if you’ll stand your ground or not. It’s much easier to consistently stand your ground since if you sometimes give in to the screaming, it reinforces to the child that it’s worth it to act out because maybe this time is the time you’ll give in.
I told her we’d start the time when she was sitting quietly. She continued yelling and scooting around all over the floor. I picked her up and put her on the stairs, and told her this is where she needed to sit.
She finally quieted down, and after fifteen minutes, I told her she could get up and gave her a hug and kiss. What is always interesting to me is how peaceful a child becomes after what looks like a battle of wills.
They’ve fought for their ability to be in control, and while it looks like they want to win, they don’t – they want to know you’re strong enough to take care of them. It gives them a feeling of security and safety, because they know they’ve crossed a line, they know they’re getting out of control, and it doesn’t feel good to them. There’s an inner calmness that I feel from them after an interaction like this.
Below are questions from my last parenting post that I’ll respond to here.
>>What would you have done if other children also needed individual or group attention at the same time? Can this be effective even if you are intermittently responding?<<
In the beginning of the interaction is when you decide if you have the ability to follow through. If you can’t, put it to the side and don’t verbalize expectations that you can’t reinforce. At the same time, other children are watching and learning from how you handle the situation, so there is magnified value in your interaction when other children are there.
I’d generally recommend to focus your attention on this child at the moment as much as possible to address the situation as quickly and effectively as possible, but if you can stay consistent with interruptions from other children, then go ahead. The reality of living with a house full of children is that others will need attention and much of the time it’s not realistic to exclusively interact with one child.
Sometimes you recognize that moment isn’t the best time to be addressing the issue, and you can choose to put it to the side. For example, in my last post detailing a situation with my daughter, I was asked:
>>I am wondering, what did you do with the kicking situation referenced in the beginning of the post? And what would you have done if she would not have calmed by you holding her outside by the bus, but would have been kicking and screaming?<<<<
I had very limited time that morning, she was very emotionally volatile and due to those circumstances it wasn’t a teaching moment. As such, I didn’t raise the issue of her having kicked them since I couldn’t deal with it at that moment, but the boys knew that I knew she hurt them and was dealing with her, even though I didn’t have her sit for quiet time.
As to what I would have done if she wouldn’t have calmed down when we were outside, I had that exact situation a couple of days later. It really depends what your priority is: I knew she was hoping she could stay home and my priority was to make sure she got on the bus. Therefore, I carried her onto the bus and put her seat belt on her myself.
>> My 12 year old daughter does something similar when she is upset. How do you suggest calming a 12 year old who is screaming and getting angry about “little” things and trying to get the mother to fight back? I try to keep my calm voice and stay firm with my answer/decision but she continues…or refuses to do what she needs to do until I give in to her demand.<<
I think the last part of your comment is the answer. A child will keep on trying to get her way until you give in, or she gives in. When she knows you’re going to stand your ground, she learns that it’s not worth the fight and everything gets much easier after that point.
About the child who is trying to get you angry about little things:
I want to clarify that I don’t advocate getting into power struggles. Communicating respectfully, listening to what they want and trying to find a way to help them get what they want is very important. Kindness matters! It’s not about making them bend to your will all of the time but about teaching them to respect you.
As I wrote that last paragraph,dd7 woke up. Since it’s early in the morning, I told her it’s not yet time to get up, and she can take a book to look at in her bed for another half hour. She said she didn’t want to be in her bed in her room by herself. This isn’t disobedience – this is a child expressing what they want and now I need to find a way to meet both of our needs.
I’m not going to insist she lay in her bed because that’s not what matters to me – what matters is that she lies down quietly. I told her she can bring out a mattress or a blanket to the living room and lay on the floor if she wants. (Both couches are occupied by the boys who woke up early and laid there when I told them it’s too early to get up.)
She told me water spilled on the mattress and she wants a towel to put on top of it, so I got up to get a towel and spread it on the mattress for her. Now she’s laying on her mattress close by where I’m sitting.
Let me know in the comments below if this clarified what you were wondering about, or if this brings up more questions for you.
Avivah


