Today I’m sharing with you the powerful story someone sent to me a couple of weeks ago. The writer shares very openly and honestly about the blackness she experienced after making aliyah.
She says she used to think that things like this happened to people with dysfunctional childhoods – that’s how I used to think as well. I thought my children were guaranteed to never go through difficulties of this magnitude by raising them in a home with two loving parents filled with warmth, time, love and acceptance and appreciation for each one as he is. However, God has His plan for us and the potential to grow through hard times is always part of every person’s story.
Thank you Anonymous (she isn’t anonymous to me) for your courage in sharing your story to help others. I’ve changed some identifying details to protect her privacy.
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My Battle with Post Aliyah Depression
Who could have asked for more a perfect childhood and adolescence? I was blessed with loving parents, educational achievement, exemplary conduct, friends, as well as a strong belief in Hashem and Torah. My family was always there for me, I never had a need unmet. I worked diligently in high school and was accepted into my first-choice college. Thereafter, I graduated with high academic honors, had a wonderful experience in Torah seminary, and began an exciting career in political advocacy.
Soon thereafter, I met my soul-mate. Hashem gave us three beautiful children, a strong marriage, financial stability, health, a supportive Jewish community – my life was fulfilled. Then, without any warning, my husband was bit by the “aliyah bug,” and things were never the same again in in our household. We had just bought a second car and our first home, and we had had our second child when I was informed that, in order to fulfill our destiny, we must move halfway across the world to Israel.
Initially, I fought it. I was so happy in our Jewish community, the kids were doing well socially and academically, my husband had a great job, and—perhaps most significantly—we had a huge student loan debt that we could never foresee paying off on an Israeli salary and a house to sell in a market that had recently collapsed. My husband was not deterred by these obstacles. However, I was at least able to convince him that—although, yes, miracles happen in Eretz Yisrael—we cannot rely on that. He reluctantly agreed that we needed to sell our home first and pay off our debt before we could make aliyah.
My husband found a higher-paying job, and we started chipping away at the loans and the mortgage. After five years, and at a considerable loss, we were finally able to find a buyer for our house. Then, we found out about the possibility of receiving grant money from Nefesh B’Nefesh (NBN) upon making aliyah. If we were willing to move to the north of Israel, we could potentially get enough financial support from NBN to make aliyah a reality. The crux of the NBN Go North program was that participants were obligated to remain in north of the country for three years. After completing our pilot trip and some further research, we felt that northern Israel would likely match our needs and desires well. We loved the natural beauty, the weather, the topography, the slower pace of life, and the general culture of the Galilee and Golan. We also knew that my husband would be much more likely to find employment in the north in his profession and that the lower cost of living in this part of the country would allow us to hopefully buy a home there one day.
Despite personal reservations of mine about leaving all of our family, friends, culture, language, and everything familiar behind, I hopped aboard the aliyah train. I realized that my husband would never be content to remain the U.S., and I knew that living in Eretz HaKodesh would enable us to more fully follow the will of G-d and bring mitzvah observance to a whole new level. What I did not know was just how difficult making aliyah would be, especially to a part of the country which is somewhat isolated with few “Anglo-Saxons,” and therefore limited resources for English-speakers.
On arrival to our new home in a city in the upper Galilee, I discovered that everything was a struggle. We had no family in Israel and, at the time, we did not have any friends living in that part of the country and, therefore, no support system. We had not been able to afford a lift (shipment), so the initial stages of aliyah were about: sleeping on thin cots on the floor; managing without a refrigerator, washing machine and dryer; having no source of heat in the apartment; and managing without a car in one of the rainiest, coldest winters in Israel’s history. We had to leave the oven running with its door open 24 hours a day with its accompanying danger to our young kids in the home just to keep from freezing. Before we had any handle on Hebrew, we muddled our way through banking, using the post office, going grocery shopping, and paying bills. Making do without a car, I found myself frequently pushing a stroller in the rain for the thirty-minute walk to my daughter’s daycare only to walk drenched another half-hour to ulpan (intensive Hebrew language classes). The daily journey was reversed in the afternoon.
Shopping was a major obstacle in our area. I remember my husband once had to go to four stores to find cheap-quality adhesive tape. I did not know what food was kosher enough for us and what to avoid, at which restaurants it was okay to eat, or which fruits and vegetables had ma’aser (tithes) taken. Unlike the place we had come from in the U.S. where we felt welcomed and wanted, our new home had no real sense of community and I felt very alone. For the first time in our lives, we were surrounded by Jews, but each person seemed part of their own social group, and synagogues were a place to daven (pray), not make friends. Most people considered Shabbat a time to spend with their (Israeli) family and not to invite over guests, especially not those that could not even speak the language. The community center was great for after-school activities but not for meeting new people.
Because I could not speak Hebrew, I was no longer able to go to shiurim (Torah lectures) or cultural events, or even feel a part of society. I knew that I needed to learn Hebrew to thrive, so I diligently made the trek to and from ulpan daily, did all the homework assignments, and tried my best, but somehow that was not enough. I got sick in the middle, took a leave of absence and rejoined another group a few months later. After completing Ulpan Aleph (beginners’ level) twice, I spoke Hebrew at about the level of a two- year-old. Somehow, I was able to master college-level physics, biology, chemistry, and calculus but Hebrew was something my brain could not grasp.
Compared with my pre-aliyah self-image as an educated, highly-functional adult, I now had become someone who was essentially deaf, mute, illiterate, and culturally incompetent. When I walked onto the street, I felt as though people looked at me as mentally-challenged. Every time someone would say to me in a well-meaning way, “why don’t you try going to ulpan to learn Hebrew?,” I would cringe and my self-esteem would drop another notch.
I felt like I needed at least a temporary break from my struggles in Israel, so with considerable effort, I was able to convince my husband to spend the summer back in the U.S. In addition, this would give him the opportunity to earn an American salary for a few weeks. Since we had been subsisting solely on sal klita (monthly stipend from the Israeli government to new olim) while we studied in ulpan, the extra income was badly needed. My husband worked at a very high-paying job in rural America, and the children and I stayed with family members in the US.
Unfortunately, this trip presented a new set of emotional trials. I felt that I was rejected by my family. In the midst of a disagreement, they told me I could not continue staying at their house, and that I had basic personality flaws. As evidence, they cited the fact that my grandfather, who had lived with us before aliya, and whom I had helped look after for the last five years of his life, died angry with me. I reacted to this rebuke with feelings of guilt, loneliness, and a further plunge in my already teetering self-esteem. For the first time in my life, I envied people who did not have family obligations or religious compunctions and could take their own life.
Upon returning to Israel, my husband and I decided that we should move to a yishuv, a small rural village with selective admission, which we hoped would bring us a sense of community that we so desperately wanted. We began to explore our options with many of the religious yishuvim in the north and found a common theme. There was no housing to be found, unless you were willing and able to build a home—which we were not. The other message we perceived during our exploration was that the resident Israelis were happy with their status quo and were not looking for newcomers who were culturally different and Hebrew incompetent, (i.e., “we don’t want our nice Israeli community to turn into another Little America.”) After an extensive application process filled with less-than-enthusiastic reception, we finally found a rental on a yishuv that was willing to accept us.
During our year on the yishuv, I found that when I asked people for help, most of my neighbors were willing to give of their time and effort happily and generously. However, very rarely did anyone reach out to us, invite our children to their house to play, or have us for a shabbat or yom tov meal. It was hard to find others who shared our religious hashkafa. We were called “too Beis Yaakov” for the dati leumi (National Religious) crowd, but we knew that we could not fit in with the Israeli Haredi segment of society. Our children were also suffering. They were not accepted by the other kids on the yishuv who had mostly grown up with each other. They routinely heard from their peers, “We don’t want you here, go back to America.” They were also getting physically bullied, sometimes by children much older than them, and I could not speak enough Hebrew to intervene with the kids or their parents. I felt completely unempowered and felt a total lack of control over my life.
To make matters worse, I was physically isolated and felt stranded on the yishuv without the ability to drive. Although I was now in my mid thirties and had been driving in the U.S,. since age 17 and had never been in an accident, I could not pass my drivers examination in Israel. I also could not find a job without the necessary Hebrew skills and reliable means of transportation. I began to hate my life, cry a lot, have difficulty eating, and sink into major depression. My husband was frustrated with me. He felt that I was not giving Israel a fair chance and that my negative attitude was ruining our chance to have a successful aliyah.
So, I felt like I had to keep everything inside. I was not comfortable to talk to my friends in the US about my problems, because when we spoke, they expressed awe at how fortunate had been to be able to make aliyah. I certainly did not feel like I could talk with our Israeli neighbors about my situation because I did not want to appear against their homeland. So I was living a lie, pretending to everyone to be happy in Israel, but in private, I longed to return to the U.S. every day.
Eventually, my husband realized that something was wrong with when he noticed that I had little appetite and was progressively losing weight. He found an American-Israeli CBT therapist that I could meet with on Skype. This became a bright spot in my life. She recommended that I find an English-speaking Torah learning partner, helped me find volunteer work in my field, and most importantly improved my poor self-confidence. I gradually got out of the dumps, and started to slowly make friends, develop realistic goals, and become more able to stand up for myself. She helped me communicate better with my husband and our marriage improved.
Then unfortunately, I relapsed. When I could not meet with her for one week due to internet malfunction, I completely panicked. I had had a difficult week and had expected she would be able to help me deal with my problems. When the help I was seeking that week did not materialize due to circumstances beyond my control, I panicked. It was then that I realized that I had become emotionally dependent on my therapist. Considering that I had never felt addicted to anything or anyone in my life, this dependency created a huge source of anxiety for me, especially knowing that our therapy was of a short-term nature.
I felt like I had failed therapy and went into a deep depression that even my therapist had difficulty helping me conquer. I became obsessed with death – wishing for it, davening for it, and wondering how I could accomplish it. I realize that for someone has never experienced depression, it is hard to understand how anyone can feel this way; but the emotional pain that I felt on a daily basis was worse than the most intense physical pain I had ever experienced (and I had gone through childbirth three times). Unlike regular sadness, where the sufferer expects that things will improve and that he can still determine his own destiny, I had a feeling of complete helplessness over my fate and hopelessness that the pain would ever go away. In my mind, my only way out was dying. I had never used alcohol or illegal drugs, but now I often wished I had access to these substances and I could take something – anything—to numb the awful pain.
Where was my emunah (faith) during this time? Before aliya, when I went through difficulties, I was comforted by my faith that Hashem controls the world and everything is bashert, meant to be. Depression is an insidious illness, warping the thoughts of its victims. I came to believe that the reason that I was suffering so deeply was that G-d was furious with me and, therefore, I must be a terrible person. I was burdened with the emotion of guilt, rather than feelings of bitachon (trust in G-d).
Through all of this pain, I confided in no one, completely embarrassed at how weak I was, ashamed about my bad feelings towards Israel, and worried that if my husband found out, our marriage would be permanently damaged. I had always been so careful to eat healthy, exercise daily, wear my seatbelt, and stay away from anything dangerous in order to maximize my chances of living a long, productive life. Now, I was preoccupied with death. My feelings intensified to the point where every time I’d pass by kitchen knives I would want to use them to harm myself, and every time I passed by our box of medicines, I would want to take enough of them to die.
I finally opened up to a couple of friends in the U.S., which helped, but it was not enough to get me to change my distorted thought patterns. I could not believe what was happening to me. I had gone from someone who disliked pain enough to never get her ears pierced to someone who was cutting herself with a knife on purpose, to reduce the emotional pain with which I was plagued with daily. Through all of this, the only thing keeping me going was the knowledge that I had a husband and three children who depended on me. If not for that constant thought, I am sure that I would have taken my life.
The following summer, our family bought us five airline tickets to the US so we could visit them. After my last summer in the US, I was very nervous about the upcoming trip and was having great difficulty sleeping. I discussed this with my family doctor. She diagnosed me with depression, and prescribed sleeping pills and an anti-depressant. I took the sleeping medication as needed, but I could not bring myself to take the anti-depressant; that would require that I admit that I had psychiatric illness, a fact that I was not ready to face.
The summer trip was an emotionally tumultuous experience, which further worsened my depression. One night in the US, while staying with relatives, I remember forcing myself to go to sleep on my hands so that I would not be able to take the entire box of sleeping pills next to my bed. On the one hand, I had a strong desire to fall asleep and never wake up, but at the same time I knew that my husband and children were counting on seeing me alive the next morning.
By the time we returned to Israel, which I had begun to see as my prison, I wished so much to die that I basically stopped eating, and I was so troubled by the conflict in my mind over whether or not to commit suicide, that I could not sleep at night. After a few days of almost no food or sleep, I knew I was in trouble. I could barely muster the strength to make my daughter a tuna sandwich for dinner. I knew that I could not go on like this, so I finally opened up to my husband. He seemed to take the news better than I expected he would.
He promptly took me to the local hospital ER for an immediate psychiatric assessment. I was given three prescriptions, told to continue therapy, and sent on my way. One medication gave me such bad tremors I could not continue it, but the other two had side-effects I could live with. The medications did help reduce my anxiety and dampened my suicidal impulses. At this point, we had started settling into our new community to which we had moved just prior to our U.S. trip.
Thank G-d our new home was a much more suitable place for us. I told people in the neighborhood that I was “sick,” and they really became a source of support for me. It was warmly reminiscent of our old community that we had left in the U.S. I opened up to a few more friends in the U.S. and Israel and was pleasantly surprised to see that these confidants continued to respect me and like me, despite my failings and weaknesses. I was no longer the “perfect” spouse, mother, and friend, but I still had a devoted husband and friends who stuck by me.
With supportive people in my life to confide in, I did not feel so dependent on my therapist. Some of my friends and my husband began to daven and say tehillim for me regularly, and my husband donated money to a yeshiva that prayed for me daily at the Kotel. My husband further offered to take our family back to America irrespective of all financial consequences (i.e., we would owe NBN the grant back) if it was necessary for my mental health. Also, the fact that I did not have to hide so many things from my him reduced my anxiety level. I was starting the road to recovery.
The next few weeks were spent in fear – my husband forbid me to go to a gorge near our house because he was afraid I would jump off, medications (except the antidepressants I was taking) were stored at a neighbor’s house, and all sharp implements were hidden away. If I had a headache, I was out of luck, and if I needed to tighten a screw, cut vegetables, or remove a loose thread from my clothes, I had to wait for my husband to get home from work to bring out the tools from hiding, and then replace them. During this time, I was able to convince my therapist to increase me temporarily to twice a week. I also started meeting weekly with a life coach and with a social work student. Thank G-d with all of this support, I improved tremendously to the point where I began to once again love myself and my life and even enjoy being in Israel.
Now looking back on this experience, I wonder why this happened to me, what I can learn, and how I grow can from it. First, my attitude towards mental health has changed. I used to think that people who had mental/ emotional illnesses such as depression, anxiety, eating disorders, alcoholism and other addictions either had a “problematic” genetic history or had gone through abusive or traumatic childhoods. I never thought something like this could happen to me. I think I have become a better listener and more empathetic to people who are suffering.
I also realized that a person’s subjective state of mind is so much more important than their objective reality. If someone is battling physical illness but has a positive attitude about his life, that person is in a much better position than someone who is may appear to have an almost perfect life, but suffers from depression. I also used to be very much against use of antidepressants, thinking that people should address the root of their problems, rather than try to medicate them away. Now I realize that depression is largely a biochemically-based disease and, just as some diabetics need insulin to regulate their blood sugar, depression is a state of serotonin deficiency and may require pharmacological intervention.
I also have learned that I do not need to be perfect, and it is okay if, once in a while, my children watch a movie because I feel too exhausted to parent them or if we have plain pasta or take-out pizza for dinner every now and then because I do not have the stamina to cook anything more nutritious. I think I have also learned how to be able to be assertive in a country where aggression is more of the norm and how to make myself heard. I am still working on not giving weight to what other people think of me. For example, I know that I took good care of my grandfather and that we had a loving relationship even if my extended family thinks otherwise. I know that I excelled academically, even though when people hear me speak Hebrew it may appear otherwise.
I now see that the fact that I battled depression and still managed to be a pretty good wife and mother even on days where just getting out of bed and brushing my teeth in the morning felt like a Herculean effort means that I am not weak as I once thought. Rather, Hashem imbued me with inner strength even in the worst of times. My parenting style has also responded to the lessons I’ve learned from therapy – I no longer try to shield my children from all of the normal hardships of growing up. I do not want them to have false sense of comfort in life. Instead, I appreciate that the challenges they face now can be used to bolster their resilience and reduce the likelihood that they will one day fall into to the grasp of depression.
I hope that as someone who has suffered from clinical depression, anxiety, and suicidal thinking that I will one day be able to help other people in that situation. Most of all, I now realize how fortunate we are if we wake up with vitality; how wonderful it is to look at our children and say to ourselves, “I hope to be alive to see them grow up, get married, and have their own children;” how magnificent it is to enjoy normally pleasurable experiences such as eating, spending time with loved ones, engaging in a hobby, or relaxing with a favorite novel or movie.
I used to pray that I should have a long, healthy life, shalom bayis (marital harmony), enough money for my family’s needs, and the ability to raise successful, Torah-observant, healthy children. Now I mainly daven that I should feel strong enough to be able to cope with life, regardless of what tests G-d brings my way. This is truly being alive.
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Last week I woke up thinking about what an ideal wish would be – I shared that with you in my post last week . That morning I spent quite a bit of time thinking about it but I was focused on what wish would give me the concrete results in my life I wanted – health, prosperity, etc. Then later the same day I received this letter. In her closing words, she hones in on what the ideal is – to be strong enough to cope with whatever comes our way.
Avivah
thank you for sharing your story with us. you are fortunate to have family and friends, neighbors, community to help. wishing you more strenghth and good health.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! It’s been a long time since I’ve wanted to hug someone through the computer screen, but this post really touched my heart.
I’ve been under treatment for depression for 20 years, but sometimes it still sneaks up on me. Please know that you are NOT alone, and that you are lovable and strong to have come this far.
I am planning Aliyah to Tzfat, and I need to hear the harsh truth. I worry that I focus too much on the good, and I want to have a realistic picture going in. I know that I need things to be walking distance, and I know that I need a large(ish) anglo community.
I really can’t tell you how incredibly valuable your post is to me. I hope some day we can meet, and I can give you a hug in real life (and invite you over for Shabbat!)
Heartbreaking and eye-opening. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this post.
Having made aliyah basically twice, once as a third grader and then, after 12 years in Israel and another 12 in the US, as a pregnant-with-first-child with my husband. In both situations, aliya was difficult and stressful. In neither situation did I have an adequate support system – an adequate and functioning – really, really functioning – support system is essential to managing the stresses of aliya.
It is also important to have a realistic understanding of who you are and what your role in life is. Anonymous, bless you, you are so much more than that cold word implies!! Being a mother of young children is just about the most stressful and demanding role in life, wherever you live. To do this, or to cope with a disease of ANY sort, whether physical or emotional, you need even more support.
Third, this isn’t just about what life throws at you. Dear Anonymous’leh (can’t call you that awful word on it’s own!), your circumstances also caused a very bright and cruel light to shine on your real life relationships, which turned out not to be as wonderful as you had assumed they were. Your extended family exhibited cruelty, your husband was demanding and obtuse, your neighbors in many places were very cold and unwelcoming. This was not just about you and your condition – these were the people you depended on. They were the shlichim Hashem sent to help you and they fell down on the job big time!
But most of all, I’m amazed at the amount of strength you had, over such a long time, to battle and come through this awful trial. May you be granted peace, strength and much nachas not just from your family and friends, but from the wonderful person you are. Thank heavens you are still here to bless the world with your presence.
Hi Yocheved,
I made Aliya to Tzfat and I would love to speak with you and help you out with anything you need. My email address is miriamcohen770@gmail.com.
Looking Forward to hearing from you!
Miriam
OP here – Thank you for your kind words of support. However, please do not judge the people in my life who did or did not support me the way I needed. Every situation is complicated and I could only write a summary of my experiences, not every detail. I am very fortunate to have a wonderful marriage, parents who have given me life and much more, and neighbors who meant well but didn’t understand how difficult it is to be an Olah.
Thank you for sharing, it saddens me that you did not have the support you needed from the beginning, but am glad you are now on the right path, enjoy the good moments and may Hashem grant you strength for the tough times
It’s helpful for me to hear this. I have two sides when it comes to Israel; the Yid who ever longs to go there, share it with my family, make it home vs. the girl who tried to do just that directly post high school, encountered so many problems, and essentially wasted 7 years of my life chasing dreams but accomplishing nothing except hurting myself before I finally returned to America and built a life here.
Now my husband has the dream and I sometimes consider putting my good sense aside and supporting him blindly. It’s good to have jolts of reality. Not to say we should never make Aliyah, but that we really need to be prepared, and that this should not be downplayed.
Thank you Anonymous and Avivah.
Wow.now I never want to make aliyah!
Jessi, I don’t know if that’s the message to take away! Aliyah can be amazing but it’s important to be prepared for how hard it can be and to move to somewhere that has Anglo support. The north is especially challenging but it still has worked well for some people; the north is best for those who are emotionally independent, speak Hebrew, bring a job with them and are a young family with no special educational or health needs. People moving closer to the center tend to have a much easier time overall in their aliyah.
What do you mean by “emotionally independent”? Do you think that part of the difficulty you personally had with the lack of community support might be due to you being a very socially needy person? I don’t mean that in a negative way at all – it’s just that there are some people who have less of a need to socialize and are happy to have one or two friends in the community, while you clearly are the type of person who enjoys sharing your life with others, as is evidenced by your blog. I know other people who made aliyah to the north with large families and are really happy there.
Also, I understand why you feel the north might not be ideal for a family who has special educational needs, but I wonder why you also mention special health needs. I know families up north who deal with all kinds of medical issues – I actually know someone near you whose child was dependent on life support at home for quite a few years – and they all seem to have their needs met there. I even know people from the center who travel up north to Rambam for medical treatment. Is there something the north is lacking medically?
Kayla, your comment made me laugh out loud! Socially needy is one of the least likely descriptions anyone who knows me would use. I’m the ideal person to live in the north based on my personality – I’ve very independent and don’t rely heavily on others at all. The person you mentioned who had a child on life support (assuming it’s the same person) told me she was amazed at how little I asked of anyone from the time we landed here, how we seemed to take care of ourselves and figure out things on our own. We did and we do. This is an important quality for living here but as I’ve said before, even people who are independent by nature are going to be more needy during their initial stages of aliyah.
I’m glad you know so many happy families though I’m wondering how many of them came directly to the north without any Hebrew, work or friends and are still in their first three years here. As I’ve said before, I’ve been happy here but I won’t promote unrealistic expectations when I know people are really trying to get honest feedback. I want the number of happy families to grow and that will only happen if they’re prepared. If where someone lands it’s more supportive than what is typical, I’m delighted for them; they’ll only benefit by expecting it to be worse than it ends up being.
Certainly there’s good medical care in the north.
First of all, I hope you were not offended by my comment. I did not mean it in a negative way at all! I have no doubt that you and your family are very independent and I really admire that. What I meant by “socially needy” is not that you need people to help you but rather that you are an extrovert who enjoys socializing and sharing with others (or so it seems from your writings). I think someone who’s more of an introvert by nature would need less of a social life outside her home while you clearly found your community did not have what you needed. I wondered if that’s why some people were happy to stay in the north despite the lack of community support while you have decided to move.
Kayla, I explained that my reasons for moving were connected to the need to be close to where my older kids are studying in the center of the country, not due to being unhappy here. I have friends here as do my kids and husband. My life isn’t perfect but it’s quite good in many ways and I wouldn’t have chosen to move if not for our older kids.
To repeat for the sake of clarity, I’ve tried to be clear about potential challenges to help those considering moving to the north accurately assess if it will meet their needs, not because I have have a bone to pick. An NBN rep has thanked me for all I’ve done for aliyah to the north, I assume referring to my blog postings (which have done a tremendous amount to put Karmiel on the map); I don’t think they’d be thanking me if I was bitter and negative. Many people have spoken to me about this and to leave people thinking my experience is typical is unfair; I realize our relatively smooth adjustment is unusual for new immigrants to this part of the country but our difficulties have been typical for the north. I know people who have left the north very quickly because they felt disillusioned and told me they felt they had been sold a bill of goods. The north has a hard time holding on to olim and those who stay very, very often continue to struggle with the issues I’ve detailed for some time.
OP here- I really don’t want anyone to come away with the message that they shouldn’t make Aliyah because of the difficulties. Yes, there are many, however, I feel that I have grown a lot as a person because of my experience and although no one asks for hardships, I believe that everything is meant to be and I am a better person because I made Aliyah. However, I do think that it may be wise to start off in an Anglo area if you aren’t comfortable with the language and culture, and come on Aliyah expecting difficulties.
hank you anoymonous for sharing your journey with us. Your narritive and journey of transversing so much adversity and your resilence is a true testimony to the power of the soul within each and every Jew. Thank you for making us all feel we aren’t. Alone. I had a family member diagnosed with three major health conditions on top of having limited financial support as well as children with medicval and academic needs. BH. I was able to recognize that the north did not have those resources built into the haredcommunity before my family hit rock bottom. I. Have friends who have lived here 2o years and refuse to go to israeli doctors – onlyanglo. Even though the people themselves in parts of the north are wonderful The doctors/organizations/shuls/etc are are much more anglo baal. batiim haredi friendly in the center
Kayla, BH I have friends but what is lacking is a wider support network. If your friends don’t have the resources or knowledge to help, then there’s nowhere to turn.
I don’t think all of the problems experienced by OP are unique to Aliyah. Anyone going through significant changes with little to no support could find themselves in the same boat.
For example, as a Baalas Teshuva living in the NYC area, I can tell you that we are totally on our own. No one shows up to rescue us when we are having troubles. I wish they would but the reality is that the only way we get any support is when we ask for it and it’s minimal even then. The frum community is very family-oriented wherever you are and if you don’t have family, you are mostly alone for Shabbos, Yom Tov, simchas, crises, etc.
You can attempt to create your own family from friends in similar situations but it is never the same as having reliable relatives. We have pieced together a minimal support network that does make life less lonely but it takes constant care and nurturing to keep it limping along.
I would also add that Aliyah is probably not advisable for Baalei Teshuva without serious emotional and financial means and support, for all of the above reasons and more.
Yes, you’re exactly right, Rivka. Life is much more difficult without having a support network but people too often minimize how much of a difference this makes. And when they make aliyah, this ends up being a critical factor in someone’s happiness level.
I’m sending you a hug because the situation you’re describing is painful and lonely. I’m glad you mentioned this reality because it’s easy to forget how many people would appreciate being more actively included and supported in their communities.
Thank you for your empathy – it really does decrease the loneliness!
We made aliyah (from the USA) to the South a month and half ago and are in an absorption center (same incentive and rules as Go North mentioned above). My wife was the one who wanted it. She told me this morning we (me and the kids) should all go back to the USA and she will kill herself. We are Dati and actually found a group of Anglo Dati people here. We came here in part because life in the USA was too expensive. We could not afford tuition and mortgage. Both of us at times felt depressed that we were losers who couldn’t hack it in the USA. Even though all the people we knew were in the same boat (not every Jew in the USA has a high paying job most can’t make ends meet). She also wants a yishuv or something like that (we have been told we are too old for kibbutz).
I told her I can’t raise our kids alone. One is only 2 so I wouldn’t be able to work and care for them. It is now 8 am on Tzum Galdalia she woke me up an hour ago with this. Any advice.
Wow, that sounds so stressful! Not a good way to start the New Year, for sure.
I’d ask your wife to sit down and make a long list of pros and cons of staying vs. leaving. Ask her if she can commit to taking a few days to think things over and talk them out, and see if she’s interested in talking to some Nefesh b’Nefesh counselors.
Your not the first family to find the adjustment difficult, and you won’t be the last. I think even the most prepared families struggle the first year, simply because ANY kind of major change is hard.
Zvi Fishman wrote that the Land of Israel is like a woman scorned. We neglected her, cheated on her, took her for granted, and rejected her. Now we want to come back, and she’s not going to make it easy on us! We have to “woo her”, and prove to her that we’re willing to make it work this time. We have to really WANT her and LOVE her, and do whatever it takes to get back into her good graces. If we can stick it out, it can be an amazing love affair with the Land, but it’s not going to happen overnight.
I hope that helps, and wherever you end up, I wish you hatzlocha and a sweet New Year. Shana Tova. {{{hugs}}}
We had a doctor who we know write a prescription for anti-depressants and sleep meds. She was taking this off and on in the US. She is now sleeping hope it helps. She feels that the kids being very sad (they are) means she is a bad mother. If I can find work that will allow us to move out of the absorption center, and we will start to feel like normal again. Our house sold at about what we owe so money wise the sale doesn’t help. I think she needs to speak to someone other then NBN, we are meeting too many people that made aliya without kids, or with one kid who was a under 4. Not meeting any who came as a family. We expected families who came with school age kids. Makes us think hat the conventional wisdom that you shouldn’t make aliyah if you have teenagers needs to be lowered to don’t do it if you have school age kids. Of course by its only by then that the greatest practical benefit of aliyah-no tuition- actually makes sense and has an impact.
Any advice on Yishovim or Moshavim?
So my wife followed through and attempted suicide. She ended up in the psychiatric hospital. DO NOT MAKE ALIYAH IF YOU HAVE KIDS. NOT DO NOT MAKE ALIYAH IF YOU HAVE TEENAGERS, BUT DO NOT COME HERE IF YOU HAVE KIDS. IF YOU DO YOU WILL DESTROY THEM AND FEEL LIKE GARBAGE.
I wish I had something of help to say but can only say, I am so, so, so sorry to hear this. Those words are so meager for the suffering you are experiencing. I can only imagine the stress, fear and anxiety you must all be under right now.
I don’t know who you are but will be davening for your family to have a complete reversal of this situation very soon.